Episode 43
Kiki Escobar And Softball Take Care Of Arizona, Baseball Sweeps USC, Coach Pendleton Wins Pac-12 Coach Of The Year, And Our Thoughts On The Women's Basketball Transfers
In this episode of the Belligerent Beavs podcast, Terry wears a crop top, we recap Softball's solid series win against a Top 25 Arizona team, celebrate Baseball's first-ever sweep of USC in Los Angeles, congratulate Wrestling Coach Chris Pendleton for being named Pac-12 Coach of the Year, share our thoughts on Women's Hoops somewhat surprising transfer announcements, and Benny argues that OSU is selling out by participating in the PK85 basketball tournament.
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Speaker A: The Belligerent Beavs are officially fighting the war on subtlety this hot beef summer with men's crop sweatshirt.
Speaker C: That is a look.
Speaker A: What's funny.
Speaker A: And now I assume it looks like I'm just wearing a crew neck.
Speaker A: Yeah, I have to wear that to work.
Speaker A: This is what we should do for all guests.
Speaker A: And then I'll just stand up halfway through the air, too.
Speaker A: Mine is Terry's hairy, scary stomach here.
Speaker A: Now I'm wearing the cropped wetsirt, which you can find in the Polycraft, despite the ribbing I'm getting from my fellow kind of who I love.
Speaker A: I'm very proud of the body that the two of you see right now.
Speaker A: And it's just a little bit more inspiration for all these crusher core workouts that we're going to be doing all summer, all spring, all summer, all fall, and then in the winter again with maybe a few breaks.
Speaker UNK: Never.
Speaker A: Jp doesn't need breaks, Betty.
Speaker A: And I need breaks.
Speaker C: I was doing so well, too.
Speaker C: I was doing so well.
Speaker C: Then I did some yard work and I broke my streak of 13 straight days.
Speaker A: That's okay.
Speaker A: That's still a good streak.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: Thanks.
Speaker A: You too.
Speaker A: And speaking of you and looking, we texted a little bit about this, but I was at Twins opening day versus the Mariners on Friday.
Speaker A: Love opening day even when it's cold as s***.
Speaker A: But I walked up.
Speaker A: There was this one staircase in centerfield area, Target Field.
Speaker A: It was by where we sat when you were here, JP.
Speaker A: And we ended up watching game one of the NBA finals with Jerry and Anthony Harris on the Minnesota Vikings instead.
Speaker A: And you almost got in a fight with their friend.
Speaker A: And their friend was so obnoxious that they were on your side.
Speaker A: One of the weirder nights in my sports consuming life.
Speaker A: But anyway, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker A: And I got up to the staircase and I saw a dude wearing like a cut off like vest Mariners Jersey over like another denim vest.
Speaker UNK: And.
Speaker A: He had a stash, he had a cough.
Speaker A: And it looked like you to the point.
Speaker A: I almost was like, is that f****** Benny?
Speaker A: Did he come to Minneapolis without telling me?
Speaker A: And how I know I was justified in my thought is my friend who was with me was like, dude, did you see that guy who looked just like Macklemore?
Speaker A: I had a couple of beers.
Speaker A: It was early in the afternoon.
Speaker A: Great time.
Speaker A: Even though the Twins lost.
Speaker A: But love opening day.
Speaker A: The cloth wasn't good enough.
Speaker A: You're betting with the good cloth.
Speaker A: He was random guy with the adequate cloth.
Speaker A: So it was all in the cloth.
Speaker A: It was all in the cloth.
Speaker B: We call that an attic off.
Speaker A: I would have been mad at you for about 8 seconds.
Speaker A: And then I would have just been so f****** happy to randomly see you unexpectedly day drinking during a weekday in my hometown.
Speaker C: I hope to God I never get so weird that I go to Minneapolis and go to a game and not tell you that I'm there.
Speaker B: That would be a very weird movie.
Speaker A: You can surprise me, though.
Speaker A: Yeah, you're always welcome to do that.
Speaker A: Anyway, surprise.
Speaker A: It's the 43rd episode of The Belligerent Beaves podcast.
Speaker A: We didn't think this would last that long.
Speaker A: That's the surprise.
Speaker A: A lot to get into tonight.
Speaker A: Last weekend was kind of a Downer.
Speaker A: Just some not great things that happened and then a handful of not great things happen that we do need to talk about after recorded, but before we posted.
Speaker A: But overall, I'm feeling pretty happy right now and some fun s*** has happened in the last week that we're going to get into.
Speaker A: We've got a lot of love to spread and some good things to shed light on.
Speaker A: But first, how are you guys doing?
Speaker A: Jp?
Speaker A: What's new in your world?
Speaker A: In that cute corduroy chop, them hat and that sweet Deliberate Pickles T shirt?
Speaker B: I'm rocking the Deliberate Pickles tee.
Speaker B: It's a limited release, so if you have hands on one, good for you.
Speaker B: If you didn't sorry, they're gone.
Speaker A: If you didn't hashtag deal with it.
Speaker A: The official fake podcast of the Portland Pickles.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: Life is good.
Speaker B: Life is good, right?
Speaker A: Life is good.
Speaker A: You are at a Beaver sporting event this week.
Speaker A: We're going to get into the baseball team.
Speaker B: We'll get into that.
Speaker A: But you were at the game in Hillsborough at Ron Tonkinfield with funky Palm Molina to see our Beaver baseball team get a win against the Portland Pilots.
Speaker A: What was that like?
Speaker C: It was great.
Speaker B: It was fun to see them in person.
Speaker B: I'm happy that we got our first taste of some in person baseball this season.
Speaker B: It left me wanting more, of course.
Speaker B: So when the timing is right, I will be at Gospel this season.
Speaker B: And I think I know the dates, but it's hard to schedule around tee ball, right?
Speaker A: Unfortunately, you have a budding Tball dynasty that we're ready to watch.
Speaker A: Bloom.
Speaker B: We're only two and zero because they don't keep score.
Speaker B: But we have eleven players on the team and the teams we've played have had seven or less.
Speaker B: And every player hits and scores every inning.
Speaker B: So we have at least scored 33 runs every game.
Speaker B: We are two and L officially.
Speaker C: Wait, how long did the games last?
Speaker B: Three innings are?
Speaker B: 1 hour.
Speaker B: Whatever's best.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker C: That's nice.
Speaker A: I think real baseball should adopt that.
Speaker A: Three innings for 1 hour, whatever happens first, then go to the bar.
Speaker A: I'm just imagining this League of parents and people being like, yeah, that team has seven and we have eleven, and we're not keeping score anyway.
Speaker A: But clearly this is unfair.
Speaker A: And I can just see you leaning over and Everett see you being like, if they only have seven, that means there's a gaping hole in the defense somewhere.
Speaker A: Find the gap, Everett.
Speaker B: Hit it where they ain't hit it where they ate it's funny you say that.
Speaker B: So this game, I have like a random Excel generator that puts a line up together because the kids are always clamoring for like, I want to be this position, I want to hit first, I want to hit third.
Speaker B: And so I just tell them, like, no line upset.
Speaker B: You can't change it.
Speaker B: And it's worth really well so far compared to last season.
Speaker B: But randomly and it was random.
Speaker B: Ev was the home run hitter of the first inning, which is the last batter of the inning because or else it's just station to station.
Speaker B: Right.
Speaker B: You just run the first and the second run to third, but the last hitter gets to clear the bases and run the whole thing.
Speaker B: And so I told him the night before he's going to be the home runner in the first inning.
Speaker B: And he had come up already with he's like, dad, I'm going to watch it, I'm going to hit it, I'm going to watch it.
Speaker B: And then I'm going to do a salute, like a see you later.
Speaker B: If you do that.
Speaker B: That would be sick.
Speaker B: He didn't do it because I don't think he's prepared for what was to come because his first step back, dude, he roped it through the infield on the fly.
Speaker B: It's a dirt and field, right?
Speaker B: It's like a little Tball field, but dirt and field.
Speaker B: But he hit it on a fly to the grass in the outfield.
Speaker B: Lion drive.
Speaker B: Not a lot of height.
Speaker B: Launch angle is still pretty low, but the Exit Vlog man was just the launch angle for a five year old.
Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B: So he got to run the basis.
Speaker B: He forgot to do the salute.
Speaker B: He forgot to pimp it a bit.
Speaker B: But he said, next time you're excited.
Speaker A: Have you had him bunt against the shift yet in Tball?
Speaker B: No, but he asked me last season if he could, but he's like, he went up to the plate and I usually work behind the plate when we're up.
Speaker B: And he was like walking up to the plate.
Speaker B: He grabbed his bat, he's got his two chains hanging out, and he's like, dad, I'm going to bunt.
Speaker B: No, you can't b*** T ball the only thing that's allowed.
Speaker B: I don't know the rules that well.
Speaker A: So it's going well.
Speaker A: None of your players have entered the Tball transfer portal yet.
Speaker B: No transfers?
Speaker A: Not yet.
Speaker UNK: Okay.
Speaker B: And 100% attendance in two games.
Speaker A: Oh, wow.
Speaker B: Nice.
Speaker A: You could give a seminar to Oregon State head coaches right now about keeping players happy.
Speaker A: Okay, that comments can get us in trouble.
Speaker A: I'm kidding.
Speaker A: Oregon State athletics.
Speaker B: We're just kidding.
Speaker B: We love you.
Speaker A: This whole podcast.
Speaker A: We're just kidding.
Speaker A: That should be a qualifier for all, like, 86 hours of the show.
Speaker A: None of it Benny with the good coffee.
Speaker A: Not in Minneapolis, unfortunately, but very much on this podcast right now.
Speaker A: And looking great, as usual.
Speaker A: Good.
Speaker B: Thank you.
Speaker C: Thank you.
Speaker A: Dope sweatshirt.
Speaker C: I appreciate it.
Speaker C: From Target.
Speaker C: From Target.
Speaker A: Shout out, Target Field.
Speaker B: You bought that at Target Field?
Speaker C: You were there and I made my Quoth just adequate to fool you.
Speaker A: I slept on my side and didn't take a shower before going to the game.
Speaker A: Text my presence.
Speaker C: I spent the whole weekend doing yard work and actually just woke up from a nap shortly before the podcast.
Speaker A: So you had the most dad weekend ever.
Speaker A: You're more dad than our dad.
Speaker A: Jp is the only actual dad here.
Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't know your work this weekend.
Speaker A: I think my dad would never Sully his existence with posting on Twitter, let alone having Twitter.
Speaker A: But on Friday, when you're like, I don't know what I'm going to do.
Speaker A: It's opening day baseball, also the Masters, but I also need to do yard work.
Speaker A: What if you are 53 years old with four kids and a riding lawnmower?
Speaker C: The funny thing is that and this probably actually makes me sound more like a dad, but I don't watch a whole lot of golf.
Speaker C: And really, I watched the Masters more so for the grounds and how pretty it is in Augusta, Georgia this time of year than anything.
Speaker C: But it was a good weekend.
Speaker A: It's one of those things like you feel like you kind of need to watch the Masters, even if you're just sort of like, if that's the only golf you watch all year.
Speaker A: But as you get older and older, just go like, wow, that is some nice foliage that molten just on point.
Speaker A: Look at those shrubberies.
Speaker A: Shrubbery.
Speaker A: F****** day.
Speaker A: Actually, this reminds me of something I thought about this week.
Speaker A: So I think it was like Monday or something.
Speaker A: It was a real crappy weather day on Monday and I was driving to work Monday morning.
Speaker A: It was like freezing rain, wintry mix bullshit, whatever.
Speaker A: And I'm stopped at a red light and no one's in the intersection.
Speaker A: And then on the other side of the intersection.
Speaker A: And this is rare in Minneapolis, Minnesota, just a f****** Bentley pulls up driving towards me on like a pretty gross weather day.
Speaker A: So initially I'm not expecting to see anyone worth seeing celebrities or whatever.
Speaker A: I'm not like, oh my God, who could that be?
Speaker A: Best case scenario, it's like Nick Schwartzen or the ghost of Mitch Hedberg or someone like that.
Speaker A: Initially, I'm like, oh my God, that Bentley is going to get f***** up in this winter remix.
Speaker A: And then as I was driving to work the rest of the day, I was like, I don't think there's a sum of money that exists that I could have where I would buy a Bentley.
Speaker A: I don't think I could ever be rich enough to actually do it.
Speaker A: Like, cars don't really do it for me.
Speaker A: And if you're a car person, then more power to you.
Speaker A: And if you're extreme is to own a Bentley, I hope you get there one day.
Speaker A: But I was just thinking about?
Speaker A: Like, I would just worry about it constantly.
Speaker A: It wouldn't be fun.
Speaker A: And then I was like, well, what would I do?
Speaker A: Like, say if I had Bentley money today?
Speaker A: And it was on this Monday.
Speaker A: So I was like, the first thing I'd do is I'd call JP.
Speaker A: Benny and other friends would be like, all right, f******.
Speaker A: We're going to the Masters.
Speaker A: That's what we're doing.
Speaker A: That's where my mind goes.
Speaker A: You have that much money to burn.
Speaker B: You would be the kid or the kid.
Speaker B: The guy.
Speaker A: I'm still a kid.
Speaker C: Let's be real.
Speaker B: At the Masters wearing every hole you would change.
Speaker B: If you had that much money, you would change colorways of some sort of custom Jordan golf shoes as you just walked the ground and didn't play.
Speaker C: Where the Jordan wands?
Speaker C: The first hole?
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: All the way up to Jordan.
Speaker A: 18 with 18 different crop sweatshirts to match.
Speaker A: I'm sure that's not up to dress code at Augusta, but if we're talking this scenario, I have the money to change the dress code.
Speaker C: I don't know.
Speaker C: It looked pretty cold in Augusta.
Speaker A: It did not look like crop sweatshirt weather.
Speaker C: No.
Speaker B: Did you guys know that they don't even use real sand in their bunkers?
Speaker C: What do they use?
Speaker B: They use granulated quartz.
Speaker C: This is going to sound so bad, but I want to have walkways made of granulated quartz.
Speaker A: This is the deadest the show has ever gotten.
Speaker A: Bentley's are too expensive.
Speaker A: It was cold at Augusta.
Speaker A: I want to make walkways with those courts.
Speaker A: We are aging ourselves right out of relevance.
Speaker B: Any College ageless, our middle finger demographic graph is just moving towards Pinky.
Speaker A: Yeah, so true.
Speaker A: Oh, my God.
Speaker A: That was funny.
Speaker A: That the shape of that was essentially a middle finger.
Speaker A: Anything else on granulated quartz, JP?
Speaker A: No.
Speaker B: I don't even know what that means.
Speaker B: Don't ask me any more questions.
Speaker A: They'll be in Wheezy's yard by next springtime and we'll be able to check it out.
Speaker C: That's right.
Speaker C: I'll send you guys a picture for sure.
Speaker A: Well, yeah.
Speaker A: I hope everyone enjoyed the Masters.
Speaker A: Congratulations to Scotty Shuffler, Juan and big shout out to Tristan Tree golf course.
Speaker A: I am the original Augusta.
Speaker A: Our Augusta and Jason, the people's Augusta that won our Twitter poll.
Speaker A: Jp, we did a special thing to commemorate our love and support and admiration of Tristan Tree golf course.
Speaker A: So why don't you talk a little bit about that before you move on?
Speaker B: It started yesterday first, where on a whim.
Speaker B: I wanted to ask the Bieber FAM.
Speaker B: I wanted Andre, our social media intern, to ask the Bieber FAM, Augusta National or Tristan Tree just open ended.
Speaker B: It could be anything.
Speaker B: It could be like, what's more beautiful?
Speaker B: What's the better setting?
Speaker B: What is better grounds?
Speaker B: What is it?
Speaker B: Better Greens?
Speaker B: What is a better drinks, beverage carts, you name it.
Speaker B: It was very open ended.
Speaker B: And we had three figures of votes.
Speaker B: And the survey says Tristan Tree.
Speaker B: That's what people want.
Speaker C: What is Tristan?
Speaker B: Do you not know any about Oregon State?
Speaker B: The Tristan tree.
Speaker B: The Tristan tree with a tree on the east side of campus outside of the Now Community Hall.
Speaker B: I think it's called east have a different name, but I think they were racist, so they removed their name.
Speaker UNK: Good.
Speaker B: So the grounds out there had a tree that was like the spot that couples would meet under.
Speaker B: And so it became the Tristing tree.
Speaker B: Couples in Price.
Speaker B: So that name carried over to the course.
Speaker C: But the Tristan tree is no longer there.
Speaker B: I think the original Tristing tree is gone.
Speaker B: This is the part of the podcast where we look things up.
Speaker C: I do want to look this up.
Speaker B: Oh, no, wait.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: Okay.
Speaker B: So here I found it.
Speaker B: Ready?
Speaker B: You just want to know the official.
Speaker C: Yes.
Speaker C: All right.
Speaker UNK: Yes.
Speaker B: The Twisting Tree, a large Gray Poplar located Southeast of Benton Hall.
Speaker B: Now Community Hall.
Speaker B: I nailed that one was a popular gathering spot on Oregon State University's campus, according to one story.
Speaker B: George, I don't know, but a faculty member in Horticulture planted the tree between 1880 and 1885.
Speaker B: An alternate view suggests that the tree was likely on the land when it was acquired because the Gray Poplar would have been considered the tree of such low landscape quality that it would not have been intentionally planted anyways.
Speaker B: An early alumnus claim that the Tricia tree was so named because of its magical effects on students, especially in springtime.
Speaker B: Like a lover's Price.
Speaker B: Right.
Speaker B: Or a meeting place.
Speaker B: And then the class of 19, one christened it as the Tristan Tree after College President Thomas Gatch admonished two students from meeting there regularly for romantic purposes.
Speaker A: Who are those two students?
Speaker A: We need to figure out who they were and enshrined them in the Boba's Hall of Fame.
Speaker A: Terry, you'll love this.
Speaker B: It's in a poem.
Speaker B: It's in a poem from the Tristan tree.
Speaker B: And I'm sure some of our dedicated Beaver FAM know this.
Speaker B: And I've actually read this poem before.
Speaker B: I think it was actually in the Mu lounge area, offset lounge by the little convenience store, whatever it was called.
Speaker B: But bytes.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Bites.
Speaker B: Across the street across the hall from Bites.
Speaker B: I'll read the poem in my best poem reading voice, which is the same as my regular voice, but I'll do my best.
Speaker B: Beneath the faithful twisting tree, youth and maiden stand the youth, a Noble lad is he who claps their fair white hand.
Speaker B: The light that fills those earnest eyes I don't like to tell them can understand.
Speaker B: And then the final lines are Long mates, thou live, thou worthy friend, thou dear old twisting tree.
Speaker B: Long may thy branches proudly wave majestically and free to minus of those happy days spent at old Oak.
Speaker A: I have some edits, but overall it's a fine poem.
Speaker B: Maybe this was a foreshadowing of things to come with all the romantic triced below the tree.
Speaker B: It was cut down in September of 1986 because it had advanced disease.
Speaker B: That's when I was born.
Speaker C: Maybe I'm the reincarnation.
Speaker C: I used to live my life as a Poplar.
Speaker B: Advanced disease of your trunk and limbs.
Speaker C: Yes.
Speaker C: Things have not changed.
Speaker A: Betty Tree.
Speaker A: Hage.
Speaker C: Well, hey, you learn something new every day.
Speaker C: I did not know that there was even a Tristan Tree anyway.
Speaker A: So there are six new items in the blitz.
Speaker A: Ring Beams merch Store dedicated to Tristan Tree golf course.
Speaker A: Take our own original take on the Masters logo.
Speaker A: Cool golf school tea, a couple dope golf hats and polos and.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: So if you're into golf and you want to catch me shooting 76 at Tristan Tree, that's the nine hole count, though.
Speaker A: I'm committed to cutting that number down this season.
Speaker B: I need the right gear.
Speaker C: I need the right gear.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: I'm going to be fitted up and looking good.
Speaker A: And you look good.
Speaker A: Play good.
Speaker A: And I have a friend of mine who's a good golfer said that she'll give me a couple of lessons for free.
Speaker A: So I'm going to take her up on that.
Speaker A: I might hang out at top golf a little bit more.
Speaker A: That's just the way I know it's easier to play top golf, but it's still putting swings on the ball.
Speaker A: You can't tell me different.
Speaker A: So next time I'm at Tristan Tree and I didn't shoot at 76, I think I shot at 58.
Speaker B: I don't remember, but I think 76 times more likely.
Speaker A: No, it wasn't.
Speaker B: Just remember, hips first, hips first.
Speaker B: Hips come through first.
Speaker A: It's all in the hips.
Speaker A: All in the hips.
Speaker A: I hadn't played golf in three years before that day.
Speaker A: No, that's a lie.
Speaker A: But I had played very little golf in the previous three years before that day.
Speaker A: But I'm committed.
Speaker A: I'm committed to getting it right.
Speaker A: So I will be back at Tristing Tree with a vengeance.
Speaker B: Me, too.
Speaker B: We got some new patrons to shout out.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: Heck, yeah.
Speaker A: Let's shout out the new Patreon patrons.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: We've got one new one to shout out.
Speaker B: And it's an important one.
Speaker A: It's a very important one.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Very important.
Speaker B: Shout out to Marla Marla, the new patron.
Speaker A: Shout out Dr.
Speaker A: Marla, mother of Coach Bubba, correct?
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker B: Correct.
Speaker A: William Mitchell College of Law in St.
Speaker A: Paul, Minnesota, the same law school that my dear mother attended.
Speaker A: Marla is a real one.
Speaker A: And follow Marla's funny as h*** on Twitter.
Speaker A: She's one of my favorite Twitter followers.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker B: So give her a follow.
Speaker B: Shout out to Marla.
Speaker B: Thanks for joining the Patreon.
Speaker B: We appreciate you.
Speaker B: Thanks for the support.
Speaker B: Also, we hope that you enjoy all the extra content because it's fun.
Speaker B: The Patreon is fun.
Speaker B: If you're not on it.
Speaker A: Join it's very fun.
Speaker A: The discord is the discord is great.
Speaker B: Check this out.
Speaker B: Let's just run through this really quick because you do realize that if you join and for the $3 a month, you get the shout out.
Speaker B: You get the discord access, you get the newsletter.
Speaker B: But there's other ways to kind of make your money more worthwhile if you join other tiers as well.
Speaker B: You get like an exclusive chop them sticker, you get an exclusive chop a mug.
Speaker B: You get $10 off the merch store, which, as we just talked about, is always popping with new gear.
Speaker B: So check it out.
Speaker B: It's fun, it's worth it.
Speaker B: And there's going to be probably just more stuff continuing to be added to the Patreon benefits.
Speaker A: Really, this podcast is just a way for JP to feed the passion towards the fashion design career that he was destined for.
Speaker C: That's right.
Speaker A: So you get this top shelf level fashion access that you can't get anywhere else.
Speaker B: I was working through an idea the other night and I bounced it off my wife Annie, and she was like, does everything need to be a T shirt?
Speaker B: Can you not make it?
Speaker C: The answer is yes.
Speaker B: It's like you clearly do not listen to the pod.
Speaker B: She admitted she does not.
Speaker C: Well, we really appreciate the support, Marla.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Thank you, Marla.
Speaker A: And that is at Docstewe Stewie 57 on Twitter.
Speaker A: Give Marla a follow and interact with her.
Speaker A: And again, thank you.
Speaker A: Thank you so much for helping hold us down, Marla.
Speaker A: We sincerely appreciate it.
Speaker B: D*** right.
Speaker A: D*** right.
Speaker B: Not to mention she is rocking the F**** pack.
Speaker B: The baby's F**** pack.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: That's dark.
Speaker A: Who's not.
Speaker A: Well, I know, but that's why I'm wearing the crop sweatshirt, because I need room for the F**** pack to show off.
Speaker A: The F**** pack.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker A: Other sweatshirts they go over or they compete on it a little bit.
Speaker A: They can bunch up.
Speaker A: It's not great flow.
Speaker A: When you have a crop sweatshirt in the Aka the free belly button movement, your F**** pack is free to take up that whole space.
Speaker A: And it's lovely.
Speaker A: So get a crap sweatshirt and a F**** pack and join me in looking f****** ridiculous this summer.
Speaker A: It's a hot, beef summer.
Speaker C: Do you guys see that we won yet another series in softball this weekend.
Speaker C: Yeah, against Arizona.
Speaker C: You know what's crazy about that is Arizona.
Speaker C: I was looking at this and at first I was disappointed because I saw Arizona is at the bottom of the pack and literally last place in softball at two and ten in conference.
Speaker C: But they're ranked number 20 in the country.
Speaker B: Yeah, they're good.
Speaker C: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker C: The pack twelve if you didn't call your own logic, though.
Speaker B: Where do they play an outdoor sport, Benny?
Speaker C: So close to Mexico.
Speaker A: It's so south.
Speaker C: It's like on the border.
Speaker C: Tucson's almost on the border.
Speaker C: They should be number one.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: I can't believe they've ever lost a game.
Speaker C: Warm there.
Speaker A: How far below the Mason Dixon line their home field is.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: Wow.
Speaker A: Well, we do need to talk a lot about the softball team, but we also need to talk about beers before.
Speaker B: Good call.
Speaker C: True.
Speaker A: Even though you are not partaking Benny, but I'm glad we got your Mason Dixon Line joking before the jump, but yeah.
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Speaker A: And something that's for sure not getting a five star review is the beer that JP is about to talk about because he has never given a B five star review.
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Speaker A: So what's getting about a four point 25 from you on the Untapped app tonight?
Speaker B: Jp, good call.
Speaker B: I think I gave it a 4.2.
Speaker B: Okay.
Speaker B: And earlier this evening I was at Barlic Brewing on Northeast Alberta shout Out Berlin Brewing, enjoying some wonderful West Coast IPAs.
Speaker B: And the food cars there are great, too.
Speaker B: I had some palate and pie pizza.
Speaker B: So shout out to the food car, Paladin pie.
Speaker B: And I walked away because I just couldn't say no to label like that.
Speaker B: Nugs with an exclamation point.
Speaker B: I like that it's cool.
Speaker B: And it's Orange and black.
Speaker B: Yes, it's a West Coast IPA shocker.
Speaker B: It's very Nuggy.
Speaker B: If you think about what kind of Nuggets, go into a beer and think about a lot of those.
Speaker B: That's what it tastes like, but it's really good.
Speaker B: So I get it for my two and make sure you visit the Bear like Brewing Brew House or whatever they call it on Northeast Alberta.
Speaker A: I can't wait to go there next time I'm in Portland.
Speaker C: Yeah, that might be my favorite branded beer.
Speaker C: I've never tried it, but it looks really cool.
Speaker B: It's cool, right?
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: It's got a good label and it's black and Orange and white and it's got an exclamation point.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: You use those, right?
Speaker A: I do love exclamation.
Speaker B: Benny, you're a Stoner.
Speaker B: You use NUGS.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker C: And I overuse exclamation points.
Speaker C: So I'm a huge fan.
Speaker A: I'm like the opposite of your typical LinkedIn professional where I'll look at an email before sending it and I'm like, I only use seven exclamation points in this email.
Speaker A: I don't think my enthusiasm is being portrayed accurately.
Speaker A: I'm going to have to find some places to add a few more in here.
Speaker A: My favorite is the parenthetical exclamation point.
Speaker A: When you put one exclamation point just in parentheses, top shelf s***.
Speaker A: I need to isolate this exclamation point so that your attention is drawn to it and that you spend the amount of appropriate time with it that I'd like you to.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker A: Well, I'm doing another live tasting of a brewery that absolutely I think maybe we've talked about on this podcast.
Speaker A: I haven't though.
Speaker A: I haven't had one of their beers yet.
Speaker A: But I had sort of this like the old favorites in my fridge today.
Speaker A: And I was like, we got to keep this segment fresh.
Speaker A: We got to keep shouting out new places.
Speaker A: We got to keep it going.
Speaker A: But also, if there is a way to tie in Oregon State or Beavers or our brand or just alliteration in general, we should do that.
Speaker A: So for the first time, I'm going to have a beer by Belching Beaver.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: Who I think we can adequately shout out as our cousins.
Speaker A: Our cousins are pretty good inspiration for this.
Speaker A: We are a few Beavers who belch our belligerence into a microphone and post it publicly once a week.
Speaker A: But JP, I believe you've been to this.
Speaker A: I have three before in Oceanside, right?
Speaker B: In San Diego.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker A: So I've had the beers before.
Speaker A: I don't think I've ever visited the tap room.
Speaker A: This one that I was able to get from Cerdix Liquors in northeast Minneapolis called Must Be the Honey Blonde.
Speaker A: It's Ride With Me by Nelly from JP, please take 5 seconds of Ride With Me by Nelly, which is a great song, by the way.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Peak f****** Nelly.
Speaker B: All right.
Speaker B: Have you ever had Belchi Beaver before?
Speaker B: Like any of their beers?
Speaker A: I think so.
Speaker B: They got some good reach, actually.
Speaker B: That's pretty d*** good to make it out to Minneapolis.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: They're not small by any means anymore, but they're West Coast focused.
Speaker C: San Diego has a lot of good breweries down there, too, don't they?
Speaker A: There's a sports bar here called Max Industrial that has a neon Belching Beaver sign in the window, but they don't have Belching Beaver beer available.
Speaker A: I know how that works.
Speaker A: Restaurants send each other signs and s***, but whatever.
Speaker A: Anyway, here is my first sip of the Must be the Honey Blonde.
Speaker B: That's a big sip.
Speaker A: Must be the money.
Speaker A: I'm too easy to please appear.
Speaker A: I'm never going to give a negative review on this show, but very good.
Speaker A: Great.
Speaker A: Aftertaste smooth build, smooth body.
Speaker C: I love Beavers like me.
Speaker B: The opposite of Terry's unsmooth body.
Speaker C: It's a felt body that has a sweater on it.
Speaker A: They're talking about the chest hair, not anything else.
Speaker A: Or torso hair.
Speaker A: In this case, I am blind.
Speaker A: All right, I'm going to bring this back on track.
Speaker A: What Belgian Beaver has to say is our smooth drinking Honey Blonde Ale is one of our best sellers.
Speaker A: And for good reason.
Speaker A: We brew with the finest quality honey available.
Speaker A: Floral aromas leap from the glass while subtly sweet flavors linger on the finish, making this a beer for all occasions.
Speaker B: Good times to you.
Speaker A: My friend, and welcome to the Beaver Family.
Speaker A: Cheers, Tom.
Speaker B: They said that s***.
Speaker A: They say Beaver family.
Speaker A: This means collaborative, means war.
Speaker B: Can I ask a favor of you?
Speaker A: Absolutely.
Speaker B: Can you reread that as if you were a Beaver?
Speaker A: I don't think I can do that as if I was a Beaver.
Speaker B: Front teeth.
Speaker C: Just a lot of teeth.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker B: Here we go.
Speaker B: This is what the podcast is all about, Terry.
Speaker B: This is what everyone's been waiting for.
Speaker A: No one is waiting for this.
Speaker A: Okay, hold on.
Speaker A: This is going to disparage Beaver.
Speaker A: I've never thought about what conversations with a Beaver sounds like.
Speaker B: Do you ever watch like Angry Beavers or any shows about Beavers like Leave It to Beaver?
Speaker A: Leave It to Beaver is not about Beavers.
Speaker B: Oh, Angry Beavers.
Speaker C: Angry Beavers is.
Speaker A: A smooth drinking honey.
Speaker A: Our best sellers for good reason.
Speaker A: We were with the finest quality high affairable.
Speaker A: Although it's leaf from the grass will suddenly sweet flavors later on the finish making this a beer for all occasions.
Speaker B: It ties to you.
Speaker A: My friend, and welcome to the Beaver Family.
Speaker A: Tom.
Speaker C: That'S going to be our most played audiogram ever.
Speaker A: We just lost all of our listeners.
Speaker B: We're done.
Speaker A: The podcast is over.
Speaker B: I started laughing too hard.
Speaker B: Hang it up.
Speaker A: Hanging up.
Speaker A: That was so awful.
Speaker A: But I just wanted to reiterate the fact that I don't back down from challenges like that.
Speaker A: I'm sorry, listener for what?
Speaker A: Jp just made me put you through.
Speaker A: Please direct your complaints to Belligerentbees@gmail.com with JP as an enabler in the subject line.
Speaker A: Are we prepared?
Speaker A: Go for it.
Speaker B: Well, I thought it went well.
Speaker B: Thank you.
Speaker C: Thank you.
Speaker A: Thank you so much.
Speaker C: My job.
Speaker A: I don't know that I'll be cast in any Broadway plays as a Beaver, but I don't know.
Speaker A: Isn't there a prominent Beaver in the line?
Speaker A: The Witch and the Wardrobe?
Speaker A: I haven't watched that in a really long time.
Speaker B: Sure.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker A: Maybe I could be that.
Speaker A: We'll see.
Speaker A: Are we prepared to talk some Oregon State sports?
Speaker B: H*** yeah.
Speaker A: Let's start with softball.
Speaker B: That's right.
Speaker B: Let's do it.
Speaker A: We already kind of did, but softball taking two out of three for Laura Burg's team.
Speaker A: More great stuff for the Oregon State softball team.
Speaker A: They are rolling again, winning series against the Arizona Wildcats in Corvallis, not in Tucson, contrary to popular belief.
Speaker A: But yeah.
Speaker A: Jp, let's start with you.
Speaker A: The seam is 31 and nine right now.
Speaker A: They did drop the finale of the series today, but Kiki Escobar got her first home run of the season in the series.
Speaker A: More great ball from Frankie Hamudi and great pitching by Sarah Hayes.
Speaker A: Handy guest time it takes to tweet at me the correct pronunciation of a student athlete.
Speaker A: That correct pronunciation could be published on the website for all to see.
Speaker A: Just throwing that out there.
Speaker A: Not all these games are on TV, but whatever.
Speaker A: Anyway, great series for the bees, baby.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: And first it was great that they got on that run today was a little bit of a disappointment.
Speaker B: They got jumped out on by Arizona.
Speaker B: They took the help, but they had the 6th game winning streak, which was huge to get back not just like in the win column, but solidify that this team can carry winds throughout their day to day.
Speaker B: The other thing that I thought was awesome is just watching Kiki Escobar because she's now had a hit.
Speaker B: Well, she's on like a seven game hitting streak I think, and not just like a one hitter.
Speaker B: Like every game she's had a couple of games.
Speaker B: Like even in today's loss she was one for three.
Speaker B: But going back to the St.
Speaker B: Mary's game at the end of March, she was four or five and she's had a hit in like eight or nine of the last twelve games.
Speaker B: I mean, something nuts.
Speaker B: So shout out to Keith Escobar for leading off and just going crazy and setting a tone for the team.
Speaker B: Also speaking of setting tones, did anyone see the famous first pitch for the softball?
Speaker B: Yes, it included a front cartwheel of sorts.
Speaker B: It was like a cartwheel flip and it was mind defying, but probably was a perfect strike because we know that she's perfect and this has nothing to do with softball other than being the first pitch.
Speaker B: But Jade Carey's first pitch was dope.
Speaker C: Yes, it was.
Speaker A: We're going to talk more about Jade, but obviously she threw a perfect first pitch.
Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A: While doing a cart.
Speaker A: We need Warren degree on here to be like it was a cartwheel, dude.
Speaker A: It wasn't a cartwheel flip.
Speaker A: Yeah, there's probably an official name for that.
Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure there is.
Speaker B: I'm sure I messed that up and that's awesome.
Speaker A: But including that, the pitching that this team is unleashing on steam has been fantastic all year.
Speaker A: And Mariah has been awesome too.
Speaker A: She went the distance in the game yesterday that clinched the series and this team hasn't won a series against Arizona since 2013.
Speaker A: Arizona might be down a little bit right now, but as you said earlier, Benny, the Pack Twelve is just f****** stacked for softball this season.
Speaker A: So any serious win is huge.
Speaker B: No.
Speaker B: Any win because we are historically now as of today, eleven and 43 versus Arizona.
Speaker B: All time, all time.
Speaker C: My theory holds true.
Speaker A: We've only played Arizona that many times in softball.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: You know what's crazy to me is going into today's game.
Speaker C: So taking today's game out of it, the finale on Sunday against Arizona, we had allowed three runs in the last seven games.
Speaker C: That's crazy.
Speaker C: That's the sort of stuff that's going to get you to Oklahoma City.
Speaker A: Wait, is that good?
Speaker C: I think it's fair to say that you're taking today out, right?
Speaker C: Yeah, he said that minus today.
Speaker A: Yeah, today doesn't count.
Speaker B: I don't know, Math, you said minus.
Speaker B: I'm so lost.
Speaker C: Today.
Speaker A: Minus today means today is irrelevant.
Speaker C: I do have a bone to pick, though.
Speaker C: And I know this is a podcast about love and this is love in Court Valleys.
Speaker C: Oregon has been swept two straight series against UCLA and against Arizona State, but they have had more games.
Speaker C: They had one game against Arizona State broadcast on ESPN Two.
Speaker C: They have one game against Arizona in the next series broadcast on ESPN Two and another one on ESPNU.
Speaker C: Oregon State doesn't have one single game on national TV, so Pack Twelve, what gives us some.
Speaker C: Give us some props.
Speaker C: Give us some credit.
Speaker C: Give us some g****** respect, please.
Speaker B: What happened to the Utah series, though?
Speaker B: I don't see any TV for that yet.
Speaker B: So I know the next three series are all packed up.
Speaker A: Oregon or don't take the wind out of Benny's sales on this issue.
Speaker A: Let him be angry.
Speaker B: I agree.
Speaker B: We don't even know what's happening against Utah.
Speaker B: Like, is it even televised on like a stream or is it Oregon State stream?
Speaker B: I don't know.
Speaker B: Either way.
Speaker B: Crazy.
Speaker A: It's a final series past twelve historically has given us all the reasons to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker A: Let's hold out hope.
Speaker B: Well, this is like.
Speaker A: Even like I got in a fight with some Oregon fans about this because I don't want to turn this into a football segment.
Speaker B: This fight.
Speaker A: No, but awards fight as the only kind of fights I really engage with.
Speaker A: But just how ridiculous it was about the Oregon State Utah football game last year when both of us were occupying first place in the respective divisions was on Pac Twelve network.
Speaker A: There wasn't another Pack Twelve game happening concurrently and I was b******* about it and some Oregon fans came.
Speaker A: I was like, yeah, well, you guys sucked last year.
Speaker A: You have been we're literally in first SEC.
Speaker A: Big Ten, Big Twelve, like these other ACC, other conferences are able to flex s*** all of the time.
Speaker A: If you can't get a team or a game between two occupying first place teams in a good TV slot, that's going to get eyes on it.
Speaker A: The conference isn't going to go anywhere and that applies across the board.
Speaker A: You need to be able to uplift your f****** teams and put your teams that are going to perform in front of eyes of the nation.
Speaker A: You mean to showcase that s***?
Speaker A: And Utah turned out to be a pretty d*** good football team.
Speaker A: And if you even look at the National College football coverage this offseason, none of them are talking about Utah because they saw them play twice.
Speaker A: Once was against Oregon when they smacked Oregon, and once was against Ohio State when they should have been Ohio State.
Speaker A: But, oh, it was just a bad day for Ohio State.
Speaker A: We'll see if you talk into it again.
Speaker A: Anyway, I digress.
Speaker A: Let's get back to softball and shedding light on Laura Berg's fantastic f****** team.
Speaker A: I'm sorry for taking it elsewhere for a second.
Speaker A: I love you.
Speaker A: I love that you ignite that fire in me, Benny.
Speaker C: Yeah, it's a fire that should be ignited in all of the beaches.
Speaker A: At least on Pac Twelve network.
Speaker C: That's right.
Speaker C: First softball and taking it back to softball.
Speaker C: I think that with allowing three runs in the last seven games leading up to today's game, that's the sort of stuff that gets you into Oklahoma City, right?
Speaker C: That's the sort of stuff that you can really.
Speaker A: Win it shout to Kiki again, too.
Speaker A: This is from yesterday's article, so I don't know what today's game had on it, but since we're ignoring today Kiki Escobar, current Pack Twelve hit leader.
Speaker B: Well, she got another one today, so I mean, it couldn't hurt.
Speaker B: Someone got hurt.
Speaker B: Three hits today, right?
Speaker A: It couldn't hurt.
Speaker A: So yeah, Kiki escort could be the fact that man.
Speaker B: Yeah, she's a freaking machine.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: F*** Ted Williams.
Speaker B: Dude.
Speaker B: She's a.
Speaker B: 400 hitter at the end of the season.
Speaker B: She could.
Speaker C: That's crazy.
Speaker B: Yeah, she could.
Speaker A: I can't even hit.
Speaker A: 400 off a T.
Speaker A: Why can't I sort it?
Speaker A: You try to bump off TS.
Speaker A: We've already discussed this shout out to the Oregon State softball team.
Speaker A: Tiki Esquire.
Speaker A: We mentioned a lot.
Speaker A: Frankie Hamudi, Ops 1318.
Speaker A: Eliana Galib has been balling.
Speaker A: Grace Mesmer has been buying Mariah Mazone, who we mentioned Madison Simon, Kayla Nelson, Lisa Campbell.
Speaker A: All of you all are put in that work in and it's being noticed.
Speaker A: It's being noticed, at least by us.
Speaker A: It might not be noticed by the past twelve, but we care and we are excited as all h*** about our 31 and nine softball team.
Speaker UNK: Yes.
Speaker C: H*** yeah.
Speaker A: Big series at UW this week.
Speaker A: They do go on the road this week in Seattle, Thursday, Friday, Saturday slate against the Huskies.
Speaker A: Uw always a strong softball program.
Speaker A: I'm going to have to give Bob again you some s*** about that because they follow their UW softball very closely.
Speaker A: So might have to add the steak bet to softball should that might not just be a football thing anymore.
Speaker A: We're going to have to bring the stake bet to softball.
Speaker C: Sure.
Speaker B: Yeah, we'll win.
Speaker A: Sure.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: That's what we got from.
Speaker A: Also baseball sticking with the diamond sports because the diamond sports are coming up diamonds this weekend.
Speaker A: We've got some major League baseball related s*** to talk about.
Speaker A: But first though, we have to talk about the active Oregon State baseball team coached by your favorite manager in College baseball, Mitch Cannon.
Speaker A: All state Ballas, the hard hats, the pedigree, everything.
Speaker A: It's been a good season so far.
Speaker A: I'd say it's been a good to great season so far.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: But it's been missing that punch.
Speaker A: And we've talked about how Sundays have been tough.
Speaker A: There have been a number of injuries and most of you guys are playing great and there's never been a reason to panic.
Speaker A: But at the same time, this is a fan base that sort of expects Championship pedigree everything all the time.
Speaker A: And that's just what happens when you win a lot.
Speaker A: And finally this weekend they got a pack twelve sweep, which I think is just that you get off the snide.
Speaker A: Everyone who's been going like, well, yeah, but all season has to take a week off.
Speaker A: Usc is a pretty good ball club.
Speaker A: They're probably not National Championship contenders, but it's still a good sign.
Speaker A: I watched more of today's game than I've been able to watch mostly.
Speaker A: So I saw us go up.
Speaker A: It was kind of a weird game today, but to see USC tie it up when we probably should have been able not to coast to a victory but to close the door and take care of business, to see USC tie it again late and for us to just answer back immediately and then shut it down shows the fortitude and the skill and the talent that you want to see in a team that has designs of winning a National Championship again this year.
Speaker A: So I'm very pleased to see the sweep and them getting it done today, especially on the road playing away from home, it's always tougher.
Speaker A: So I'm pretty happy with where Oregon State baseball is at.
Speaker UNK: Yeah.
Speaker C: It was the first time that we've ever swept USC and La.
Speaker UNK: Really?
Speaker UNK: Wow.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker C: First time we've ever swept USC and La.
Speaker C: And I agree with you what you said, Terry, where we were, it was a little disappointing to see them tie the game at three late, but the way that we responded was pretty incredible.
Speaker C: I mean, we slammed the door shut on them in the 8th and left sort of no room for them to come back again.
Speaker A: It was a lot of little things, too.
Speaker A: I know this team can score runs for days and we've got guys like Jacob Melton who are going to make me eat my words.
Speaker C: He had a huge series.
Speaker A: I'm not going to try the Australian accent, but when they tied it up by three and then I think it was Melton, Forester and who's on after Forester, but we loaded the bases with no outs.
Speaker A: And that's when you sort of think of guys like teeing up like, oh, we're going to break this open.
Speaker A: Gavin Logan had such a great AtBat and ended up getting to walk in a run.
Speaker A: And it was about a ten pitch at bat where he drew the walk and he was pretty aggressive.
Speaker A: He followed off, I think, two or three different pitches from the USC reliever, but he was so patient and the ball four was like a clear ball four.
Speaker A: And it was just one of those like when you watch someone who clearly has a great eye for the ball doing their thing in the box.
Speaker A: And I'm like, that was great to see, to see that we have a team that can put that kind of run scoring together.
Speaker A: In addition to I know the grand slams are happening, the home run blasts are awesome.
Speaker A: We can rope five, six, seven straight hits together on a dime.
Speaker A: But making a pitch to you and being that smart in the box is what often decides the difference come tournament time.
Speaker A: So seeing Gavin Logan do that in that tough spot on a Sunday against a USC team that's like, let's not let these bastards weep us.
Speaker A: Like, we got to get one tough place to take a pitch, and he did it, and that ended up being the difference.
Speaker A: So props to Gavin Logan for that bat, because that was a fantastic bat.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: All things considered, like, it's been awesome to see a sweep, awesome to see a win on a Sunday.
Speaker B: I will play Devil's advocate here.
Speaker B: Like, I'm still a little worried about the closer role and who is going to be able to be that shut down, night ending guy.
Speaker B: I don't know if anyone's really kind of established himself to be that person yet, and it's okay.
Speaker B: I'm not saying we have to have that right now because I don't think we had it going into the season either.
Speaker B: And it's one of those things that as long as they're ready by June, it's good.
Speaker C: It will be okay.
Speaker B: If we give people opportunities to close down these games with leads in the 9th, they'll get that experience.
Speaker B: But if you just even this series alone.
Speaker B: I think they scored every game in the 9th except for today.
Speaker B: So I'm still worried about that.
Speaker B: The Sunday monkeys offer back.
Speaker B: That's great, but we need to shut down closer.
Speaker B: We still need to find who that's going to be in the bullpen.
Speaker B: I don't know who can really fill in that role at the moment, but someone's got to come out and do it.
Speaker B: I think that's the biggest takeaway right now that I have with this team.
Speaker B: The other one.
Speaker B: Terry, this might be a good news to you is that Melanie has a homeward in, like, over two weeks.
Speaker A: It's not good news to me.
Speaker B: We've been stuck in nine for, like, since the end of March, but the man is still everywhere.
Speaker C: He is.
Speaker A: He's here.
Speaker A: He's there.
Speaker A: He's every f****** wear.
Speaker A: Jacob Melton.
Speaker A: Jacob Melton.
Speaker A: I want to lose this bet.
Speaker A: It wasn't even a bet.
Speaker A: We didn't bet anything.
Speaker A: We just guessed.
Speaker A: You said, is he going to break the school age record?
Speaker A: Obviously.
Speaker A: And then he was like, obviously.
Speaker A: And I was like, Maybe he won't and maybe that's not bad.
Speaker C: Wet blanket.
Speaker A: Terry, I hate it so much.
Speaker B: What was the home run record.
Speaker A: If it's 69?
Speaker A: And I said no, and people are giving me s*** for it.
Speaker A: They don't even play 69 games.
Speaker C: Well, they have sort of a weird non conference slate coming up of five games in seven days, all at Gospel.
Speaker C: They've got three against Long Beach State and then two against Gonzaga, who we've handled pretty well.
Speaker A: They're ranked now.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: It's not a different team than the team very early.
Speaker A: It's not a different team.
Speaker A: But they've played, I don't know, probably 26 games since then and hypothetically could have improved 15 right now.
Speaker C: Well, that will be a good test.
Speaker A: In all 15 rankings.
Speaker B: Are they ranked 15, 1517?
Speaker B: Maybe those are the only two that they're differentiated in, but they should just rank all the rankings like a composite number.
Speaker B: Eleven, 916 1311, Oregon State, Beavers.
Speaker A: I took a very quick glance at all of them and we're like between five and ten at most.
Speaker A: And another one has us at like 23.
Speaker C: That one is coming out of Eugene.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker A: No, I think that one hated the packed well, because I think.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: Let's get them on the pod, let them explain themselves.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker C: Hey, so this is probably a naive question, but has there always been a pack twelve tournament in baseball?
Speaker C: That's new, right?
Speaker B: Yeah, that's new.
Speaker C: That's brand new.
Speaker B: This year.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: This year, I think.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: That will be fun to watch.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: I'm going to need Mike Rooney on again to explain that to me.
Speaker A: I see it now.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: In Scottsdale in May.
Speaker A: Do you guys want to go?
Speaker A: This is a podcast where we plan things.
Speaker A: We propose trips that we're probably not going to be able to take.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: It could be really hot.
Speaker A: I was in Scottsdale in August twice last year, one for the fantasy draft and another for Adam Keefe's Bachelor party.
Speaker A: Shout out, Keifer, we love you, but g******, that was hot.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: That's where you stay the pool all day.
Speaker B: You never leave.
Speaker B: It's midnight.
Speaker B: It's 110.
Speaker B: You're still in the pool.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Oh, brother, it really is.
Speaker A: But yeah.
Speaker A: So baseball I think this Gunsaga series is actually going to be fairly telling us two games.
Speaker A: I don't want to overhype it, but this is like the first time because we've had these non conference games sort of sprinkled in as how it works with the College baseball schedule.
Speaker A: But right now we've got three games set with Long Beach State.
Speaker B: How is Long Beach State?
Speaker C: They are traditionally good.
Speaker B: They're 500 right now.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: They haven't really traditionally good, though, in a couple of weeks.
Speaker A: So they're probably down and then Gonzaga is probably going to want to come back.
Speaker A: So the disrespectful score lines in the opening series of the season were at the expense of New Mexico and knock on Zega.
Speaker A: But we still beat them 13 to five and nine to five.
Speaker A: And that nine to five wing.
Speaker A: It was nine to one in the 9th inning.
Speaker A: So they're going to come in hot.
Speaker A: They're going to want to win.
Speaker A: And I feel like this is a five game stretch where it's a weird five game stretch it's a weird five game stretch where a team could be prone to lose their focus a little bit.
Speaker A: So it's one of those hard things where if the Beaves sweep these next five games, no one is really going to be like, oh, check out the Beaves playing ball over here.
Speaker A: It's just going to be what they're expected to do.
Speaker A: And if they drop one, I don't think it's the end of the world either, but I think this will be tough.
Speaker A: This will be an interesting five game stretch over the next week.
Speaker A: And then whenever the season ends, hopefully it's with a giant party in Omaha.
Speaker A: But looking back on it, I think we'll be able to sort of at least tell a chapter of the story of this beef season with what about the weird five game slate?
Speaker B: What about the weird game or the weird upcoming series with Oregon, where we play at Oregon on Tuesday?
Speaker B: It's far out, but I've looked at this multiple times and tried to make sense of this and I don't get it.
Speaker B: So we play Oregon on a Tuesday.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: In between our series with Washington and Utah, we have one game against Oregon.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker B: Then we go to Utah after that three days later.
Speaker A: And then come back for one game at Eugene, and then three games against organic costs.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: What the f*** is that?
Speaker C: Who schedules these games?
Speaker B: That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker A: No.
Speaker C: What would the explanation be?
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker B: Why would we face our arrival?
Speaker B: We can't actually put our f****** real starters in our rotation and plan it out to face them.
Speaker B: Instead, we get two straight Tuesday games on the road book, ending a road trip to Utah.
Speaker B: I just don't understand that at all.
Speaker B: I don't get it.
Speaker C: In the past, it's always against Oregon, too.
Speaker C: But these random games against Oregon, like this one offers, they don't even count as conference games either.
Speaker C: So I don't know if that's the case here.
Speaker C: It doesn't tell me on the schedule, but a lot of times that's the case.
Speaker B: Yes, I remember that.
Speaker B: There's times where we will schedule in conference.
Speaker B: We've done that in basketball, too, right?
Speaker B: Do we do that against Wazu this year or somebody?
Speaker A: In basketball, it's always been because of covet, though.
Speaker A: I think it's always been covet inspired when Oregon baseball season started, whether or not you want to believe why it started because maybe because we were having too much fun winning back to back National Championships and you decided to cancel historic wrestling program that had a great tradition and heritage and a lot of people ready to fight for it.
Speaker A: I don't know.
Speaker A: I don't know these things.
Speaker A: I'm just speculating.
Speaker A: But yeah, there's like always a random game, whereas Oregon State versus Oregon baseball.
Speaker B: But they do a split.
Speaker B: They do it a split.
Speaker A: They do like it was one road, one home, and they didn't count in the conference standings.
Speaker A: And I feel like if that's something that the conferences is like, hey, you have a certain number of non conference dates, you can pretty much guarantee either place Eugene or Corvallis will have a good attendance showing.
Speaker A: It will drive interest.
Speaker A: And if both programs are cool, I'm down with that.
Speaker A: Let's play Oregon and baseball nine times a year.
Speaker A: I think that'd be fun.
Speaker B: It's a placement of these games.
Speaker A: It is.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: It's weird.
Speaker B: It's bullshit.
Speaker C: It throws off the rotation for sure.
Speaker B: Or we don't adjust the rotation because we shouldn't for a Tuesday game.
Speaker B: And now we're throwing just like a weekday guys at an Oregon team.
Speaker B: Who knows what they're going to do looking in behind us at least.
Speaker B: And so, of course, they're going to be trying whatever they can to prove that they could beat us.
Speaker B: This benefits them when it comes to hosting a regional super regional.
Speaker A: I don't want to throw more s*** at OSU Beavers.com, but it should denote whether or not it's a conference game, because this has been a thing in the past where we've played past twelve opponents in this sport.
Speaker A: I don't even think it's just an organ thing where it hasn't actually been a conference game.
Speaker A: And every other conference opponent we have, it's just a three game series in one venue.
Speaker A: It's not like Call is coming up to Corvallis this year.
Speaker A: That was the three game conference set when we played them in Berkeley.
Speaker A: Same with when we played ASU.
Speaker A: Same when we played Wazoo.
Speaker A: Same with Stanford, same with Washington.
Speaker A: Same with Arizona.
Speaker A: Same with SC, same with UCLA.
Speaker A: It's the clean three game weekend series.
Speaker A: So what the f*** do these Tuesday games mean?
Speaker A: Does Oregon just want to host us at their baseball Stadium so they can be like, hey, remember after you won two straight National Championships, this is what we threw a bunch of money at?
Speaker A: Like, is it the Stadium cool?
Speaker A: And we'll be like, yeah, it's kind of okay.
Speaker B: No, it sucks.
Speaker A: I'm more happy to be part of the program that literally built this Stadium for you to pretend to be a baseball team.
Speaker C: So I'm on pack twelve.com, and they don't denote whether it's a conference game or not either.
Speaker C: But it does say that the network for the two Tuesday games is packed.
Speaker C: Twelve Insider, where the three games in Corvallis, the traditional Friday, Saturday, Sunday is packed.
Speaker C: Twelve networks.
Speaker B: Yeah, but look at Watson.
Speaker B: The UW games are also packed.
Speaker B: Twelve in Saturday.
Speaker C: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker B: I don't know.
Speaker C: I think that they're non conference because each team should have the same amount of conference games and there aren't other teams playing random Tuesday games against the conference opponent.
Speaker C: I don't think sure, but who does that benefit?
Speaker B: That's my point.
Speaker B: I don't care if it's conference or not.
Speaker B: Who does that benefit?
Speaker B: Does that really benefit us?
Speaker B: What is that for our organization where we go down to Eugene after playing a series against UW.
Speaker B: And then we go to Eugene for again, knowing that we're going to fly to Salt Lake City to play Utah team on the road, knowing we're going to come home just to go to Eugene to play another one off before we're coming home.
Speaker B: Home and playing Oregon.
Speaker B: It's f****** stupid.
Speaker A: Yeah, if both managers want it and it's like, hey, we're going to use this as more games.
Speaker A: We all have very talented rosters and we want to get our guys development and they're dude buried on the bench.
Speaker A: You can play College baseball.
Speaker A: I'm just trying to find reasoning for this, but that's also why you have a ton of games scheduled throughout the course of the season.
Speaker A: You don't need Tuesdays against your inconvenience rival on the road to pretend play big time conference baseball.
Speaker A: I don't know, maybe that was something when it started.
Speaker A: It's probably a money thing as it always is with those f****** down the road.
Speaker A: But anyway, we'll play Oregon a bit.
Speaker A: We have five games against Oregon.
Speaker A: I can't wait for my Twitter mentions at that point because I p***** off a lot of people when they were owing three against San Diego.
Speaker A: So let's go.
Speaker B: Bring it on, baby.
Speaker B: Yeah, I beat it.
Speaker A: All of you.
Speaker A: But still, let's go.
Speaker A: It's going to be fun.
Speaker A: On top of that, more great Oregon State baseball news in the MLB, the best player in Major League Baseball right now plays for the newly named Cleveland Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker A: It's not Kenny Lofton.
Speaker B: Oh, I love Kenny Lofton.
Speaker B: Great giant.
Speaker C: I did like Kenny Lofton.
Speaker A: It's not Rick Wild Thing Von.
Speaker A: It's not Pedro Serrano or William Tome or Jimtomy Mash and Taters.
Speaker A: It's Stephen Kwan on Oregon State alum after one series in the seasons hitting.
Speaker A: 800 for Cleveland, Stevens done fantastic.
Speaker A: He got his first hit early on opening day for Cleveland.
Speaker A: And I remember people on Friday, everyone or on Thursday, people were going crazy for him.
Speaker A: And then I just kept seeing Stephen Kwan tweets and thinking that it was reactions to just him getting his first hit.
Speaker A: But like, no, now he has his 8th hit and I was like his 8th hit.
Speaker A: How many at bats does he have?
Speaker C: And they're like five for five, literally eight.
Speaker A: And then he also had two walks and got hit by a pitch.
Speaker A: Like his on base is a million right now.
Speaker B: Has he struck out?
Speaker A: No.
Speaker C: Not in regular season or in spring training.
Speaker C: 44 at bats.
Speaker C: Zero strikeout.
Speaker A: I said that without confirming, but I'm happy that I was correct.
Speaker A: Now shouts to Stephen Kwan, Al Central foe.
Speaker A: I don't give a s*** goes my closest to uncle is a big Cleveland fan, so I can be behind him and cheering for the Guardians this year.
Speaker A: And if Steven Quan is a part of it, then h*** yeah, go Beave chop them, baby.
Speaker C: H*** yeah.
Speaker C: It's his rookie season.
Speaker C: First majorly get back and he has definitely been I say this unknowingly, but I would imagine the best batter in the first series of the season so far going imagine the pressure that's on you in your first series in Major League Baseball.
Speaker C: I feel like you would just be, like, shaking in the batter's box.
Speaker C: And to do what he's done is pretty incredible.
Speaker B: Shout out to Bob Lumberg.
Speaker B: Right.
Speaker B: He wrote the book Finish.
Speaker B: And in that they cover a little bit about the recruiting of Steven Kwan.
Speaker B: And it's insightful.
Speaker B: If you can see the excerpt it's been posted.
Speaker B: If you have the book, read it.
Speaker B: If you don't have the book, buy it.
Speaker A: Buy it from a local independent book store, though.
Speaker B: Don't buy it from Amazon.
Speaker A: I know, but hey.
Speaker B: Sorry, Benny, but there's an excerpt explicitly talking about the recruitment of Kwan and how they were like, is this guy really going to be something?
Speaker B: And Pat Casey was pretty much like, this guy is going to be it.
Speaker B: He's going to be it.
Speaker C: H***, yeah.
Speaker B: Here he is.
Speaker B: Here he is.
Speaker C: Just lightening it up in the biggest stage that a player can play on.
Speaker A: Man of many words, Pat Casey, is he going to be it?
Speaker A: He's going to be it.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker B: Pat Casey, I still have your tent.
Speaker B: I'm sorry.
Speaker A: We have so many enemies in the Oregon State athletics community.
Speaker B: I'm sorry, I still have your tent.
Speaker A: Why do you have Pat Casey's tent?
Speaker A: We picked up a lot of new listeners in the last few weeks.
Speaker A: Jp, you have Pat Casey's tent.
Speaker B: Let's talk about why I was camping out for Civil War tickets.
Speaker B: And I didn't have a tent.
Speaker B: And my roommate at the time knew the Casey family.
Speaker B: His parents knew the Casey family.
Speaker B: And he was like, well, ask them if we could borrow their tent.
Speaker B: So I rolled up to the Casey residence in my old 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee and parked in the driveway.
Speaker A: Great car.
Speaker A: Great car.
Speaker B: It's a great car.
Speaker B: It's a great car.
Speaker B: And then out came Pat's wife.
Speaker B: I don't remember her name, but she delivered the tent and put it in the back of the car and said, have fun.
Speaker B: Like, thanks.
Speaker B: So we go to camp out and we plant the tent.
Speaker B: And we had way too much fun.
Speaker B: Way too much fun.
Speaker B: To the point where we didn't realize as we were waiting in line that they didn't let us get tickets for the game because our dad's weekend tickets didn't count as student tickets.
Speaker B: So our count of student tickets was one lesson that was allowed.
Speaker A: That old chestnut that happened every year.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: They will never know.
Speaker A: They'll never know the value of an Eastern Washington ticket stub.
Speaker B: We were up all night.
Speaker B: We were awake all night.
Speaker B: We were drinking.
Speaker B: And then we realized we couldn't get tickets.
Speaker B: I was furious.
Speaker B: Shout out to a super secret producer, Skinner.
Speaker B: He was not serious.
Speaker B: He was like, I got this.
Speaker B: I don't know if he left a stupid guilt call.
Speaker B: See the tickets for 24 hours, because the next day, he was like.
Speaker B: He texted me, like, 05:00 a.m.
Speaker B: Jake get here.
Speaker B: And I saw it, too.
Speaker B: I show up, and he said the top of the stairs, yelling at people like, no, f*** you.
Speaker B: I was here last night, and the night before walking up, I parked right in front on 26 or whatever, like, in front of Gill, and I just walk up the stairs.
Speaker B: I'm like, waving people.
Speaker B: They're all booing me.
Speaker B: And I'm like, I was here last night.
Speaker A: F*** you all.
Speaker A: I still haven't slept in day.
Speaker A: I don't care that it's f****** finals week.
Speaker A: Why is it scheduled the way that it is?
Speaker B: But I looked in the tent because we're like, we should give this back to Pat Casey.
Speaker B: It's Pat Casey.
Speaker B: And I'm like, I pop up the tent, and I'm like, no, let's wait till he asks his tent because it's bad inside.
Speaker A: What did you do to it?
Speaker A: Did you guys puking it?
Speaker B: Did you know?
Speaker B: No, we were puking it.
Speaker B: We held our own.
Speaker B: But it was like the hangover.
Speaker B: You went and looked at it, and you're like, what happened in here?
Speaker B: How did that be all over you?
Speaker A: Disrespected Pat Casey's property is what you did.
Speaker B: I never gave it back to him, and I feel really bad about it.
Speaker A: And the tent is with you?
Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's still in my garage.
Speaker A: Dude, you're like a really neat guy.
Speaker A: Typically, thanks.
Speaker A: It is a compliment, but I think neat like.
Speaker B: Cool or neat like.
Speaker A: Organized both of those things.
Speaker B: Thanks.
Speaker A: But I think part of that is because you just have this garage that no one's been inside of.
Speaker A: And over the last few years, I've heard you reference many mysterious objects and be like, I think it's in my garage somewhere.
Speaker A: And then I realized we were chatting with some of the Patreon members on the discord.
Speaker A: Like, I've never been inside of your garage, and I've been to your house a lot.
Speaker A: I think you're just the ultimate hoarder.
Speaker A: And your garage is going to be prominently featured on TLC at some point in the future.
Speaker A: And they're going to be like, what is this?
Speaker A: Why can't we get rid of this Puke filled rag?
Speaker A: And you'll be like, do you know whose Tet that is?
Speaker A: That's that.
Speaker C: Hey, speaking of hoarders.
Speaker B: Are we Hoarding conference coach of the year?
Speaker A: I think we are.
Speaker A: We are hoarding conference coach of the year at Oregon State.
Speaker A: Great Segway.
Speaker A: That's how you know we've done this 43 times now.
Speaker A: Congrats.
Speaker A: Oregon State wrestling coach Chris Pendleton.
Speaker A: Pack Twelve wrestling coach of the year.
Speaker B: Chop them.
Speaker A: Chop them, and they do them.
Speaker B: They do the cross axes on their.
Speaker A: I don't know if that's a nod or if that's just an openness to chop them.
Speaker A: We'll take it either way for all Americans, great season.
Speaker A: For Oregon State Wrestling at Nationals.
Speaker A: Shout out to you, folks.
Speaker A: Everyone involved with that program, but especially Coach Pendleton and he's in pretty good company.
Speaker A: Gymnastics Tyina Chaplin and men's soccer Terry Boss also named conference coaches of the year in their respective sports this season.
Speaker A: That's the first time that Oregon States had three in one academic year since 2013.
Speaker B: So that's.
Speaker A: Cleaning up for sure.
Speaker A: And we aren't even done yet.
Speaker A: We aren't even done yet.
Speaker A: We got more.
Speaker A: Laura Berg's going to get one.
Speaker C: Yes, she should.
Speaker A: Mitch could get one, too.
Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think Tinkle's getting one.
Speaker A: I'm pretty sure that's been announced now, too.
Speaker C: But hey, one piece.
Speaker C: And I know I'm backtracking a little bit here, but you see that Adley was, I think, third.
Speaker C: Bodega put out their MLB futures and Adley was third in Rookie of the Year.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
Speaker C: Odds.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: Rookie of the Year.
Speaker A: Odds.
Speaker C: Adley was third.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker C: So that's exciting.
Speaker C: He's looking to get called up for Baltimore this year.
Speaker A: I thought he had to get Tommy John surgery.
Speaker C: No, I don't think so.
Speaker A: That's not a thing.
Speaker C: I don't think that they would have them as third in potential Rookie of the Year.
Speaker A: That came out today.
Speaker C: I saw that last week.
Speaker B: The Tommy John was like April Fool.
Speaker B: Somebody you put out f*** you got fool, bro.
Speaker A: I'm pretty sure I saw it after the first well.
Speaker B: Because I lived forever on the Internet.
Speaker A: I'm aware of that.
Speaker B: But I remember being a delivery pickles podcast.
Speaker A: Well, it's going to live forever on that shirt that you're wearing, especially if you don't get rid of anything, you f****** hoarder.
Speaker A: There's going to be a Belligerent Beavers Museum.
Speaker A: It's going to be JP's Garage and it's going to be deliberate pickle shirts and Patcasey tent and your 17 year old Puke and Pat Casey's tent.
Speaker A: Sorry, Coach Casey, for the disrespect shown by my co hosts.
Speaker A: Congratulations again to Chris Pendleton and all of Oregon State Wrestling.
Speaker B: H***, yeah.
Speaker A: Fantastic.
Speaker A: He's a well deserved Coach of the Year.
Speaker A: And shout out to my guy, Richard Elvis, who was my friend at Oregon State and also wrestled at Oregon State.
Speaker A: And I miss you, Richard, too.
Speaker A: Shout out Richard, should we move on to I really want to get to basketball today because there are things that need to be discussed and I really want to pass.
Speaker B: Let's do it.
Speaker A: I think we can sort of group men's basketball and women's basketball into this sort of one basketball umbrella right now.
Speaker UNK: Yes.
Speaker A: We're talking about if we're worried or not.
Speaker A: And I guess the emphasis is on women's basketball first because the programs are in different places.
Speaker A: We thought that the NIT Run had a lot of reason for belief for next year.
Speaker A: Also, as we're speaking of this pod, it's worth mentioning we don't know s*** about the lives of these athletes.
Speaker A: People aren't always transferring because things are wrong within the program.
Speaker A: I think COVID has also exacerbated a lot of certain things within the transfer portal.
Speaker A: You have people like Taya Caroso, who I was hoping would be a forever Beaver, has played in more than 100 games for this program and is declining and coming back for a six season at Oregon State.
Speaker A: I don't think that is a sign that things are wrong.
Speaker A: No, you put it in the same week of Katie Brown, Taylor Jones and Greta Campus are announcing that they're entering their names in the transfer portal, and then everyone's just like, Kia too.
Speaker A: What?
Speaker A: So it's important to think of all these things as a case by case basis.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: I think we also need to give a shout out to Leo Van Olhoffen, who took the Liberty of telling that she's staying on Twitter.
Speaker A: It is baller.
Speaker A: But when I saw a f****** notes that post from Talia that Dear Beaver Dash.
Speaker B: No, there's something to be said about being like, no, I'm going to confront all the rumors right now and I want to set the record straight.
Speaker B: And that was so badass.
Speaker C: And I think that's so badass.
Speaker A: A student athlete who is clearly smart and very self aware just understands the exact climate, whatever.
Speaker A: It's like people are going to be guessing about this s*** probably regardless of what teammates are doing or how many people are entering the portal.
Speaker A: Just because people are entering the portal and programs all over the place for her to be like, I know what I'm saying, so I'm just going to put that at ease.
Speaker A: Like I'm f****** saying.
Speaker B: But it wasn't just the staying.
Speaker B: It wasn't just the staying that she announced that she pretty much declared that she's a Beaver till the end.
Speaker C: Right.
Speaker B: Look like chickens change.
Speaker B: We know that, and it happens for everybody.
Speaker B: The circumstances change, things come up, your feelings change, your role changes.
Speaker B: And I don't fault anybody for looking for greener pastures.
Speaker B: If that's the case.
Speaker B: We've already seen most of these players that are leaving.
Speaker B: I think we can pin it down to a variety of reasons that are very understanding.
Speaker B: It sucks to lose them because they're established and we know what to expect from them.
Speaker B: And we like rooting for them as fans and Beavers care about them as people.
Speaker B: But it's hard to fault them for what the real rationale is for leaving it, whether it's spoken or not or whether you can interpret it or not.
Speaker B: But to come out and straight up say, I am leaving and I'm here till the end, that's big.
Speaker B: That's big.
Speaker B: You know what that shows me?
Speaker B: I think real quick, being in the North West, we're surrounded.
Speaker B: And I'm not a Blazers fan, but I'm a Dame Lillard fan through and through one because the Bay Area do like me, but also because the man is loyal forever.
Speaker B: And I won't even say to a fault because I sometimes think that loyalty gets so overlooked that people always say, oh, you're loyal to a fault?
Speaker B: Like, no, I'm just loyal.
Speaker B: And I think that Lillard is a guy like that.
Speaker B: And I think Talia is the same kind of baller.
Speaker B: She's just loyal.
Speaker B: And I think she wants to say, like, no, I planted my flag.
Speaker B: This is where I'm at.
Speaker B: Let's do it.
Speaker C: I think that you're spot on.
Speaker C: I think that is the character trait that I respect most with athletes, especially in the climate that College sports is in now where you can I mean, transferring out of a program was big, big news even five years ago.
Speaker C: And now it seems to be sort of commonplace.
Speaker C: So for someone to take a stand and say, I'm not going to do that, especially if they're a highly sought after, a commodity, that's huge.
Speaker C: And I think more importantly, when we saw these back to back to back student athletes decide that they were going to enter the transfer portal or they weren't going to come back to Oregon State.
Speaker C: Half of that is, well, they're going to be missed next year.
Speaker C: But the other half of that is there a problem within the program.
Speaker C: And I think with Talia stating, like, I'm not going anywhere, not only that, but I'm going to be staying with this program for long term, that almost puts a nail in it for me that the problem is not within this program.
Speaker C: And like you said, JP, the other players leaving or the other student athletes leaving was a set of circumstances that had nothing to do with anything wrong with the program.
Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not willing to freak out yet either.
Speaker A: I don't like seeing players especially really promising players leave.
Speaker UNK: No.
Speaker A: But also I believe this is conventionally the highest rated recruiting class coming in that Ruby could sign.
Speaker A: And I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not.
Speaker A: But I also know the climate we're in talent, the names and numbers are going to be changing a lot.
Speaker A: But also, I think Tim U.
Speaker A: S.
Speaker A: We've interacted with a bit on Twitter had a point because Sasha Goforth last, I believe two years ago, transferred from Morgan State back to be closer to her family in Arkansas, was one of the best recruits that we had, was a great player for Oregon State, but clearly transferred to be closer to her family because she was dealing with a lot of court stuff, off the court stuff, and illness issues.
Speaker A: And now after her last season at Arkansas, Sasha just retired and isn't going to be pursuing basketball anymore, which, Sasha, I'm f****** heartbroken for you that your career is ending this way because of things that are out of your hands.
Speaker A: But I even remember when she decided to transfer there's someone in Bruce didn't have a track record of losing player as much, but even then it was solicitous.
Speaker UNK: Like.
Speaker A: What could be beneath the surface here.
Speaker A: And I get it.
Speaker A: We don't know everything.
Speaker A: This isn't our job, but our role here and our role as fans and outsiders of the program is to speculate and to imagine and to think and think critically about what could be going on.
Speaker A: And so it could be any number of things.
Speaker A: But because of the strength of Talia's words, I'm not really ready to be like, oh, f***, like something's amiss, like maybe Ruby had a great decade and now here comes the back end.
Speaker A: That's going to be a trickle down to, like above average, average basketball.
Speaker A: But even if Talia hadn't posted that, I'm not sure I would have gotten there yet.
Speaker A: It would have been like, oh s***, this sucks.
Speaker A: Let's see what the response is.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker C: I would also add that a team that's, like rotting from the inside in terms of culture isn't going to be a team that goes on a tear at the end of the season.
Speaker C: Like we saw, they were clearly playing for each other.
Speaker C: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: I think we need to reset the assumptions around the transfer portal.
Speaker B: As fans, I think it's a big I do, too.
Speaker B: It's really one of those things where it's like if a player enters the portal and you're not surprised, then the reason why they leave is probably going to be unsurprising to you right now.
Speaker B: You probably assume that we're going to lose playing time.
Speaker B: They didn't get along with the coach.
Speaker B: Right.
Speaker B: If they entered the transfer and you are surprised, it's probably because they want to be close to family or they want to play with old teammate or they want to play with their sibling.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: It isn't that deep.
Speaker A: It isn't.
Speaker B: And I think that if you reassess what the circumstances are in that way and you realize, like, oh s***, Taylor Jones entered the transfer portal, I didn't expect that.
Speaker B: She's probably entering it for a reason.
Speaker B: You would fully understand if you knew.
Speaker B: So just wait and relax for sure.
Speaker C: And keep in mind, these student athletes are like 18 1920 years old and living on their own for the first time.
Speaker C: And I know even like our freshman year at Oregon State, there were a lot of people that did go home after that first year.
Speaker C: I was one of them.
Speaker C: Not because I missed home, but there were other people that did miss home and they go and they move to be closer back to home.
Speaker C: Like when you're 18 1920 years old, being away from family is not easy.
Speaker C: So, yeah, I agree with everything you said.
Speaker A: Jay, and on the manner of women's basketball, too.
Speaker A: It's worth mentioning because there's more than 1000 women's basketball players in the world and right now and some people who are anti transfer rights are freaking out about it.
Speaker A: There are twelve WNBA teams.
Speaker A: If you're a first round pick in the WMBA, your spot is not guaranteed at all.
Speaker A: So a lot of players have the agency, the inspiration and the reason to transfer if they think it's going to improve their stock, not only for the WNBA, but to play overseas.
Speaker A: I know that the WNBA is the WMBA is going to expand.
Speaker A: There's going to be more teams, but it's not like there's going to be 20 teams tomorrow.
Speaker A: Like the fact that we saw this last year with Alia Goodman getting drafted by Connecticut in the second round and not making a team of training camp and then taking a coaching job at Duke.
Speaker A: And I think that Duke is a great program.
Speaker A: I'm happy for her, but also Alia Goodman, if she wants to, he should still be playing basketball professionally.
Speaker A: And if you're on the fringe or whatever, you're probably hearing it from a lot of people.
Speaker A: And you need to make that decision to be like, oh, you can be seen for potential WNBA.
Speaker A: Like, if there is stigmas in College basketball that WMBA Scouts aren't necessarily looking West Coast.
Speaker A: We know we've pointed to East Coast bias in a lot of sports, even though I know we had a certain Oregon duck who is the number one pick in the WMBA draft, who is a wonderful basketball player.
Speaker A: But still, I don't know if that necessarily changes the cultural thing in College sports.
Speaker A: So I think the lack of just the sheer lack of spots in the WNBA is influencing this in women's College basketball.
Speaker A: Twelve teams out of twelve players.
Speaker A: That's it.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: That's ridiculous.
Speaker B: Expand the WNBA, period.
Speaker C: Exactly.
Speaker A: Portland needs a team.
Speaker A: F****** the Bay Area had a team put his team in Oakland, for sure.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: I don't know how Portland doesn't have a team that city would support a WNBA team.
Speaker B: So.
Speaker A: Well, everyone they're making choices off of like, oh, well, there was a team there in 96, and it's like, well, you didn't put resources behind it.
Speaker A: You f****** everything is there now.
Speaker A: And Portland would absolutely support a WMBA team.
Speaker A: So I'm hoping Portland and Bay Area get the first two expansion now.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker C: And just like outside of Oregon saying, I feel like women's basketball is if there's one sport that's on the rise more so than others, it's women's basketball right now.
Speaker C: And so you're right.
Speaker C: Wnba will expand.
Speaker C: It's just a matter of time.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker A: Even like watching the Final Four being like, s***, there's so many players I want to watch in the W, like next year and there's not spot the Final Four.
Speaker A: It's not even like finding diamonds in the rough in smaller programs and things like that where players like in the NBA, like players like GP two who have been given that opportunity to take the road less traveled and to take the scenic route towards a meaningful NBA career that's just not afforded to women's basketball players now because you won't get that many roster spots handed to you just because there is one f****** fifth of them.
Speaker A: But there's just as many players playing in College.
Speaker A: I don't know.
Speaker A: We should move on.
Speaker A: Benny, your b*** hurt.
Speaker A: Your b*** hurt.
Speaker A: But you have a thought that I'd like to hear you expand on, and we'll bring this back a little bit.
Speaker A: So next year in late November, over Thanksgiving weekend, actually, the PK 85, the PK 3085.
Speaker A: Somewhere in between, however, old Phil night is we don't give a s***, really.
Speaker A: It's hosting his annual ridiculous birthday party with a lot of College basketball games in Portland.
Speaker A: We are included in this both Oregon State men's basketballs, including this, and Oregon State women's basketballs included in this with teams like Gonzaga and Duke and Arizona and North Carolina.
Speaker A: The way it sort of works is there are two sets of brackets.
Speaker A: There are two different eight team men's brackets and two different four team women's brackets.
Speaker A: We're not on the same bracket as Oregon in either men's or women.
Speaker A: So I don't think there's a possibility we face Oregon during this four day stretch of basketball.
Speaker A: But it looks like Portland should be the center of College basketball preseason hoopla.
Speaker A: I'm hoping to be in town.
Speaker A: I just realized this week that's Thanksgiving I might be like, sorry, family.
Speaker A: I'm going to go drink at basketball games with my friends.
Speaker A: But opportunity undeniable for both Oregon State men and women seems to play some really top competition in a tournament that will be nationally televised.
Speaker A: I'm not going to put words in your mouth, Benny.
Speaker A: I'm just going to ask you to share something similar to what you put on Twitter yesterday.
Speaker A: What do you think about this Oregon State basketball participating in the PK 85?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker C: Specifically for the men's basketball program.
Speaker C: It feels like a sellout.
Speaker C: And I say that because the women's team has proven that it's going to be competitive.
Speaker C: They have one of the top rated recruiting classes coming in, and so they can hang with these teams and they could legitimately win the tournament.
Speaker C: And I think that that would be really cool if Oregon State won the tournament that was put on in part by Phil Knight.
Speaker C: But keep in mind, Phil Knight was advocating for the University of Oregon to become a private school not long ago so that he didn't have to have a fraction of his donations go to Oregon State and the other schools, universities that are in the Oregon University network.
Speaker A: Can I ask a potentially ignorant question?
Speaker C: Yes.
Speaker A: How true is that?
Speaker B: It's true.
Speaker C: I think it's legitimate, yeah.
Speaker B: I worked at the foundation at the time that this was going on.
Speaker A: And it was I don't know a ton about that.
Speaker C: It was right around the time when PK park was being filmed because he was donating a ton of money to PK park and it was going to be distributed to.
Speaker B: State schools.
Speaker C: Yes, that's right.
Speaker A: Because that's how anything in the Oregon, like the state of Oregon, public University system, part of your donation has to be distributed.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: And I'm saying it's weird because I don't necessarily know private school.
Speaker A: It would be such a terrible idea.
Speaker A: Right?
Speaker C: Well, that's why it didn't happen.
Speaker C: Right?
Speaker A: But I'm so stupid.
Speaker C: I don't want money from Phil Night.
Speaker C: But the fact that Phil Knight made it a point to go through this ridiculous process so that he didn't have to have 1% of his donations go to Oregon State like, f*** you.
Speaker C: And the fact that we're playing in a tournament that's sponsored by him, I mean, whatever.
Speaker C: People that were responding to my comment made valid points and said, hey, we need the money.
Speaker C: Someone goes, we need the money to buy out Tinkles contract, which I don't agree with.
Speaker C: But okay, if that's true, then that's when we're selling out, then how is that not us selling out?
Speaker C: We need the money.
Speaker C: So we're going to play in a tournament.
Speaker C: That's fine.
Speaker C: But we are doing it to take the money, which is by nature selling out.
Speaker C: And I think that I feel more passionately about the men's program because unless something insane happens, we're going to get smoked by the teams that are in this tournament.
Speaker C: And so it's going to be where we're going to lose games by 20, 30, 40 points.
Speaker C: We'll take the money and we'll get out of there.
Speaker C: But like, God, it just feels dirty to me.
Speaker C: And I understand where people say, like, hey, put Oregon State on the stage.
Speaker C: It's good for recruiting.
Speaker C: We could use the money, and those are all valid points.
Speaker C: But if we win?
Speaker B: What if we win?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker C: I mean, that would be cool.
Speaker C: That would be really cool.
Speaker C: I think the chances of that happening are not very good.
Speaker A: But we accepted this invite before this previous passage.
Speaker C: We did.
Speaker C: Yes, we did.
Speaker C: And I get it.
Speaker C: I understand us doing it, and that does obviously add a different element to it.
Speaker C: It's not like we agreed to this knowing that our team is going to be in the tattered shape that we're in right now, but I don't want Oregon State playing Willfully in a tournament that is put on by this phone m***********.
Speaker C: Like, I just don't.
Speaker A: I do love that about you.
Speaker A: We didn't interact on Twitter about this.
Speaker A: I do disagree with you, but I disagree as respectfully and lightly as possible.
Speaker C: I stated I know that I'm in the minority thinking that, right?
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: I don't know.
Speaker A: I feel like every College sports team is at varying degrees of selling out at all times.
Speaker A: So we're in Nike school still.
Speaker A: I feel like maybe we go with Diaz or under armor until Phil Knight to f*** himself, and then we say no to a tournament like this, which would be kind of awesome, but that also could be worse in a lot of ways.
Speaker A: There are some under armored schools with some pretty s***** branding and not great recruiting track record.
Speaker C: It's getting better.
Speaker C: It's getting better.
Speaker A: It's possible.
Speaker A: So yeah.
Speaker A: I don't know that I want to not be Nike, and I'd rather at least just be in it with a chance to perform and to get that money.
Speaker A: But I feel like at the time that the invite was made, they were like, well, Oregon State women's basketball is always good.
Speaker A: Oregon State men just got to the lead eight.
Speaker A: We have to plan this tournament 18 months out, basically every year.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: Inviting Oregon State men's and women's is going to be a great idea.
Speaker A: And then we had the type of seasons we did, which were the worst season in school history.
Speaker A: On the men's side and the first time that Ruick didn't go to the tournament in almost a decade.
Speaker A: On the women's side.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: So I'm not sure how thrilled Nike is with this Penny.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker B: We got you Nike.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: Tricks on you.
Speaker A: That's how you do a f****** long Con.
Speaker A: That's right.
Speaker C: I will say it's not going to sway me from not going to the games.
Speaker C: I am going to be down in Portland.
Speaker A: We're going to party and go to games and have Thanksgiving with each other.
Speaker A: And that's also probably the same weekend as the Civil War games.
Speaker A: So we'll probably drive down to Alice for that football game after watching those dope basketball games.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: It'd be a really fun weekend with friends and sports.
Speaker C: It's going to be a really good year for those Beaver Fame that live in Portland.
Speaker C: At least a really good time.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: You got the football game at Providence Park in September, and then you have the PK Invitational in November.
Speaker C: So that's cool.
Speaker A: That part is his 985th birthday party like some Bilbo Baggins s***.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: I say this all like being a human.
Speaker A: Rain needs to be destroyed, Phil.
Speaker A: You have to cast it back into the fires of Mount Doom.
Speaker A: You can't just keep it forever.
Speaker B: I don't want to say anyone.
Speaker A: I'm not saying die already, but I'm saying I just did.
Speaker C: I don't mean it.
Speaker C: I just really don't like his.
Speaker A: Thank you for tuning into this last episode of the Belligerent Peace podcast.
Speaker B: We've been assassinated by him.
Speaker A: Even before this went live, Nike Henchman showed up at all of our places of residence.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: I will say Phil Knight grew up in the neighborhood that I grew up in, so I share that with him.
Speaker C: I just do not like his personal choices of trying to oust Oregon State of money that we probably desperately need.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker A: I'm just not interested in that, dude.
Speaker A: I was at a local independent bookstore within the last few years, and I asked for book wrecks, and they were like, if you like sports, you should read Shoe Dog by filming.
Speaker A: I was like, I'm not coming back to this bookstore.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: That's where you walk outside on that bookstore and you no.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker A: We just advocated for Phil night's murder and burning books in the last minute.
Speaker A: Let's bring it back to who we are as progressive, loving people who are on the podcast.
Speaker A: Okay, no, not one of the Bays has ever committed murder or burned a book.
Speaker A: You can take that to the bank.
Speaker B: That's true.
Speaker B: That is true.
Speaker B: We've not done either of those things.
Speaker A: We just get a little excited.
Speaker A: We've been described as clowns and a little over the top by multiple listeners in the past.
Speaker A: But we're here, we're back.
Speaker A: We need to get out of here in a long episode.
Speaker A: We're here, we're back, and now we're gone.
Speaker A: Oregon State Football Spring game this Saturday, April 16.
Speaker A: If you want to, it's free.
Speaker A: You can go to the game in Corvallis.
Speaker A: You can hear John Smith.
Speaker A: Jonathan Smith.
Speaker A: I've never called them John Smith before.
Speaker C: No, it sounds like a Founding Father.
Speaker B: No, it sounds like the guy who kidnapped Pocahontas.
Speaker C: That's true.
Speaker A: Jonathan Smith.
Speaker A: But also Scott Barnes.
Speaker A: The flight director will talk, and I believe it's open to the public and it's like a town Hall Q and A.
Speaker A: So if you want to ask Scott Barnes about selling.
Speaker B: No asking about us.
Speaker A: What's your favorite podcast?
Speaker A: Scott Barnes.
Speaker A: And he'll say, like Hidden Brain.
Speaker A: What's your second favorite podcast?
Speaker A: Scott Barnes.
Speaker B: What's your favorite Beast episode?
Speaker B: Scott Barnes.
Speaker A: He'll say the one where they let other people take it over so I didn't have to hear from the three of them so much.
Speaker B: Oh, my God.
Speaker A: That was a deep cut.
Speaker A: Scott Barnes, anyway, but yes, thank you so much for listening to the show.
Speaker A: I'd say go, JP.
Speaker A: I'm sure you have Tball to coach and run, but anyway, it's on pack twelve Networks, so I plan on tuning into the spring game, getting my early scouting reporting in.
Speaker A: But yeah, Bieber FAM, go drill Scott Barnes with all your questions.
Speaker A: I'm not ready to say anything negative about the job he's done, but he is here to answer our questions and he answers to the Beaver FAM, not the other way around.
Speaker A: So go there with your questions if you want to hype the podcast to him.
Speaker A: I feel like it might already be on his radar, though.
Speaker A: Is that arrogant to say?
Speaker A: But I think it might be arrogant and true.
Speaker A: Anyway, thank you for tuning in to this 43rd episode of The Blizzard Peas.
Speaker A: Darren Sprawls The Greatest Number 43.
Speaker A: Not an Oregon State Beefer, but 43 so fast.
Speaker A: Ncaa Football Five State was the most fun team to play with just because of Darren Sprills.
Speaker A: Like Barry Sanders on ice skates, he was amazing.
Speaker A: We've got coming up.
Speaker A: Obviously we'll have weekly episodes throughout the spring summer.
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